Trump Campaign Got Early Word Russia Had Democrats’ Emails

Trump Campaign Got Early Word Russia Had Democrats’ Emails
Trump Campaign Got Early Word Russia Had Democrats’ Emails

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Politicsthrowaway17 · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

So collusion.. got it.

IraGamagoori_ · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

>  According to the former Trump adviser who was there, and who spoke on condition of anonymity to avoid offending former colleagues, **Mr. Papadopoulos spoke for a few minutes about his Russian contacts** and the prospects for a meeting with the Russian president.

> But several people in the room began to raise questions about the wisdom of a meeting with Mr. Putin, noting that Russia was under sanctions from the United States. **Jeff Sessions, now attorney general and then a senator from Alabama who was counseling Mr. Trump on national security, “shut George down,” the adviser said.** “He said, ‘We’re not going to do it’ and he added, ‘I’d prefer that nobody speak about this again.’”

That’s funny, he seems to have described things completely differently to Congress:

> Let me state this clearly: I have never met with or had any conversations with any
Russians or any foreign officials concerning any type of interference with any campaign or election. Further, **I have no knowledge of any such conversations by anyone connected to the Trump campaign.**

Kvetch__22 · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

March: Trump camapign finds out about the emails

July: Trump asks Russia to release the emails. His handlers say he was just joking, but he sounded serious.

August: Russia releases the emails.

G-U-I, L-T-Y, you ain’t got no alibi.

Edit: To those pointing out that Trump was referring to emails from the Clinton server, but we got emails from the DNC server, do you really think Trump understands that there are two different sets of emails from two different places? The man said he knew about technology because Barron was good with the cyber.

0ldgrumpy1 · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

Trump might go to prison for Hillary’s emails…. I’m so hard right now.

ranchoparksteve · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

The revealing thing is that nobody in the Trump campaign, including Trump himself, was shocked or revulsed by Russia’s extraordinary interference in the American election. Trump publicly invites it on several occasions. He is a traitor in every sense.

Reign_Wilson · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

We’re in the golden age of 10 pm breaking news.

Fatandmean · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

My word…however is that possible?

darkseadrake · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

I hope Muller knows this. (im sure he knew LONG before we did but we are but the mere public.)

NoMoreBoozePlease · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

Meuller wanted this released today. First of many sleepless nights for Trump.

Stalin_2020 · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

NO SLEEP ONLY F5

wataf · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

The scariest part about all of this I think is that all of this is going exactly to Putin’s plan. We are fractured as a nation, our stature on the world stage is abysmal, our president will likely soon be in Jail, 30% of the population will support him when he is behind bars and Putin is the puppet master pulling all the strings.

Attacks to destabilize will continue to come from Russia from all angles and will only grow increasingly sophisticated and effective. And they will do so while we deal with the ramifications of what is happening right now. If Trump and his cabal go to Jail, what next? How do we stop the civil war which is brewing? How will we rebuild an institution in which the party in control of all 3 branches of government enables and abets treason? Fuck I have to stop because I am depressing myself.

weakpancakes · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

>By SCOTT SHANE

OCTOBER 30, 2017

WASHINGTON — The indictment of a 30-year-old campaign aide — so green that he listed Model United Nations in his qualifications — shifted the narrative on Monday of the Trump campaign’s interactions with Russia: Court documents revealed that Russian officials alerted the campaign, through an intermediary in April 2016, that they possessed thousands of Democratic emails and other “dirt” on Hillary Clinton.

That was two months before the Russian hacking of the Democratic National Committee was publicly revealed and the stolen emails began to appear online. The new court filings provided the first clear evidence that Trump campaign aides had early knowledge that Russia had stolen confidential documents on Mrs. Clinton and the committee, a tempting trove in a close presidential contest.

By the time of a crucial meeting in June of last year, when Donald Trump Jr. and other senior Trump campaign officials met with a Russian lawyer offering damaging information on Mrs. Clinton, some may have known for weeks that Russia had material likely obtained by illegal hacking, the new documents suggested. The disclosures added to the evidence pointing to attempts at collaboration between the Trump campaign and the Russian government, but they appeared to fall short of proof that they conspired in the hacking or other illegal acts.

The improbable figure at the center of the new information was a “foreign policy adviser” to Mr. Trump, George Papadopoulos. It was Mr. Papadopoulos, one of three men whose indictments were announced on Monday, who appears to have been the first campaign aide to learn about the Russian hacking of Democratic targets

A crucial detail is still missing: Whether and when Mr. Papadopoulos told senior Trump campaign officials about Russia’s possession of hacked emails. And it appears that the young aide’s quest for a deeper connection with Russian officials, while he aggressively pursued it, led nowhere.

Mr. Papadopoulos repeatedly promoted the idea of a “history making” meeting between Mr. Trump and Vladimir V. Putin, the Russian president. Senior campaign officials, however, said that Mr. Trump should not make the trip and leave it to someone “low level in the campaign so as not to send any signal,’’ according to an email cited in court documents.

Mr. Papadopoulos then proposed that he himself, perhaps with another campaign official, travel to Moscow to meet with the Russians.

“The trip proposed by defendant PAPADOPOULOS did not take place,” prosecutors wrote.

To grasp the significance of Monday’s developments, it helps to recall exactly how the Russian attack unfolded.

In September 2015, the F.B.I. made its first call to the Democratic National Committee to report evidence of Russian hackers inside the committee’s network. But for seven months, the word never got beyond an I.T. contractor, and the hackers apparently had the run of confidential emails and other files.

During that time, Mr. Trump was pressed to assemble a team of foreign policy advisers, a difficult task because he was shunned by many Republicans who had served in earlier administrations. In early March, Mr. Papadopoulos, who had been helping the beleaguered campaign of Dr. Ben Carson, offered his services to the Trump campaign.

Around March 6, documents say, a campaign supervisor – identified by a former Trump adviser as Sam Clovis – told Mr. Papadopoulos, then living in London, that “a principal foreign policy focus of the campaign was an improved relationship with Russia.”

A week later, traveling in Italy, Mr. Papadopoulos encountered a London-based professor of international relations, Joseph Mifsud, who claimed to have “substantial connections with Russian government officials.” (The court documents do not name Mr. Mifsud, but a Senate aide briefed on the case identified him as the professor in question.)

Unimpressed by Mr. Papadopoulos at first, Mr. Mifsud became far more interested when he learned that the young traveler was working for the Trump campaign. The two men met again in London on March 24, when the professor introduced Mr. Papadopoulos to a Russian woman he said was a relative of Mr. Putin with close ties to senior Russian officials.

The same week, Mr. Trump, visiting The Washington Post, was pressed to name his foreign policy team. He read out five names, most of them with modest or nonexistent public profiles – including Mr. Papadopoulos. Mr. Papadopoulos began emailing campaign officials about his new contacts with his “good friend” Mr. Mifsud and the Russian woman, whom he incorrectly believed was Mr. Putin’s niece, and the possibility of a Trump-Putin meeting.

On March 31, back in Washington, Mr. Papadopoulos met Mr. Trump for the first time at a gathering of his new foreign policy team at the candidate’s Washington hotel. According to the former Trump adviser who was there, and who spoke on condition of anonymity to avoid offending former colleagues, Mr. Papadopoulos spoke for a few minutes about his Russian contacts and the prospects for a meeting with the Russian president.

But several people in the room began to raise questions about the wisdom of a meeting with Mr. Putin, noting that Russia was under sanctions from the United States. Jeff Sessions, now attorney general and then a senator from Alabama who was counseling Mr. Trump on national security, “shut George down,” the adviser said. “He said, ‘We’re not going to do it’ and he added, ‘I’d prefer that nobody speak about this again.’”

But Mr. Papadopoulos was not deterred, the documents say, and he continued to communicate with Mr. Mifsud and the Russian woman about more contacts. The Russian woman wrote on April 11, “we are all very excited by the possibility of a good relationship with Mr. Trump.” Mr. Mifsud introduced Mr. Papadopoulos over email to a Moscow contact who said he had connections to the Russian foreign ministry. They spoke repeatedly over Skype about a possible Moscow trip, the documents say.

J.D. Gordon, a former Pentagon official who worked for the Trump campaign as a national security adviser, helped arrange the March 31 foreign policy meeting.

On April 26 came a crucial meeting. At breakfast at a London hotel, Mr. Mifsud told Mr. Papadopoulos that he had just returned from Moscow, where he had “learned that the Russians had obtained ‘dirt’ on then-candidate Clinton.” Mr. Mifsud said he had been told the Russians had “thousands of emails.”

On May 4, the Russian contact with ties to the foreign ministry wrote to Mr. Papadopoulos and Mr. Mifsud, saying ministry officials were “open for cooperation.” Mr. Papadopoulos forwarded the message to a senior campaign official, asking whether the contacts were “something we want to move forward with.”

The court documents describe in detail how Mr. Papadopoulos continued to report to senior campaign officials on his efforts to arrange meetings with Russian officials, which The Washington Post reported on in August. But the documents do not say explicitly whether, and to whom, he passed on his most explosive discovery – that the Russians had what they considered compromising emails on Mr. Trump’s opponent.

J.D. Gordon, a former Pentagon official who worked for the Trump campaign as a national security adviser and helped arrange the March 31 foreign policy meeting, said he had known nothing about Mr. Papadopoulos’ discovery that Russia had obtained Democratic emails or of his prolonged pursuit of meetings with Russians.

“I was surprised to learn what George Papadopoulos was up to during the campaign,” Mr. Gordon said in a text message. “He obviously went to great lengths to go around me and Senator Sessions.”

Mr. Gordon said that such end-runs around normal channels are common in presidential campaigns. “It’s very hard to know what every single person is doing, especially since some folks deliberately go around the chain of command,” he said. “But George Papadopoulos obviously represents an extreme case.”

Prosecutors may have deliberately left salient details out of the documents filed in court to protect the continuing investigation. But what they did say portrays Mr. Papadopoulos as continuing for months to arrange meetings with Russian officials. As late as August 2016, Mr. Papadopoulos was advised by a campaign official, apparently Mr. Clovis, to travel to Moscow “if it is feasible.”

Instead of opening a new era in relations with Russia, Mr. Papadopoulos found himself caught up in the investigation of the Russian interference in the American election. The documents accuse him of lying to F.B.I. agents in two interviews, first on Jan. 27 and then on Feb. 16, when he “reiterated his purported willingness to cooperate with the F.B.I.’s investigation,” according to an affidavit filed by Robert M. Gibbs, an F.B.I. agent investigating the case.

On Feb. 17, the agent wrote, Mr. Papadopoulos shut down the Facebook account he had used since 2005, including to exchange messages with the intermediaries for Russia. Prosecutors considered that to be obstruction of justice, and it became part of the case that concluded Oct. 5 when Mr. Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to make a false statement to the F.B.I., which carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison.

tokyoburns · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

Which means Sessions goes down for Perjury.

JacobCrim88 · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

How will I ever sleep tonight?

plato1123 · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

I dub this *Orange Monday* for the history books, the initial spilling of Orange Julius

sleepyfries · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

Haha chasing hillary’s stupid emails got these clowns caught. It’s almost like fox news lead the Trump team right into a propaganda trap.

MagicalMemer · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

I can’t wait to wake up to GOP’s spin on how this was a ploy from the DNC.

thesmash · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

This dude used Facebook Messenger and just thought he could delete his account. Are they really that dumb?

MBAMBA0 · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

So Trump’s request that Russia hack Hillary’s emails WAS a joke, only the joke was not that he really wasn’t colluding with Russia, but that he was pretending to request something from them they had already provided.

fkdsla · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

But it obviously couldn’t be considered collusion, because “getting information about Russian cyberoperations before the rest of the country gets that information” could not in any way be considered collusion.

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crucixX · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

Why didn’t the campaign people alert the authorities? I mean, if you were a patriotic person it would alarm you that another country has some sensitive information from your country. They could have been heroes preventing data leakage.

Aedeus · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

But trump supporters were just telling me this only about taxes!! ^^^/s

kahn_noble · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

In September 2015, the F.B.I. made its first call to the Democratic National Committee to report evidence of Russian hackers inside the committee’s network. But for seven months, the word never got beyond an I.T. contractor, and the hackers apparently had the run of confidential emails and other files.

Perhaps this is where the “other” Podesta comes in?

Also, please tell me GP is in protective custody.

ihohjlknk · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

Explains Roger Stone being unusually clairvoyant about the release of Podesta’s emails, because his russian buddies told him.

TheDebateMatters · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

This article should remind everyone what real journalism is. This is a journalist with sources laying out corroborated facts.

This Papadopolous guy isn’t a nobody. He is the first small domino to fall in the chain. Trump’s inner circle have got to be terrified tonight.

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UnattendedQing · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

but his emails about her emails….

irony

Derperlicious · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

and at teh time trump was attacking the claims that teh DNC was hacked by the russians, claiming it could have been some kid in his basement in new jersey. When he had first hand knowledge it was the russians.

I wanna hear his supporters spin why the entire trump campaign has lied so much about russia, if it was nothing.

one of the normal media needs to show the russian timeline matched up with trumps tweet time line. Him deflecting from the DNC hack was fairly odd at the time.

its odd because it actually probably would have been a better tactic, to be more transparent. not leave off all the russian meetings, and complain that people who do shit wrong arent so open and transparent. But trump constantly lying about anyone having any meetings with russians and everyone.. EVERYONE leaving that shit off their security clearances.. well it looks a tad bit bad.

grifflyman · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

Anyone ells remember when Trump openly asked Russian hackers to hack into Hillary Clinton’s emails? He did it on air during the campaigne. Perhaps he knew they had the information already.

ai_fill_konkor_it · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

To me it looks like they do effectively have the emails and know their content and would like to have it used against Clinton by the FBI, but the problem is that when he makes it public that he owns the emails, he delivers the actual proof that he colluded with russia.

Metabog · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

Reminder that the e-mails had basically nothing that worrying in them – just fodder for people to keep bringing them up and making them sound scary. At the same time I bet if republican e-mails were leaked everyone would just call it fake and move on. It’s just Clinton hysteria, same as since Bill’s days.

HelpBBB · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

>I was surprised to learn what George Papadopoulos was up to during the campaign,” Mr. Gordon said in a text message. “He obviously went to great lengths to go around me and Senator Sessions

Right, the same Senator Sessions who met with the Russian ambassador more than once during the campaign and then lied about it, unprompted, during his confirmation hearing. See nothing here folks, just one rogue low level staffer, move along now.

rivalOne · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

Ok here are some important points IMO.

> Unimpressed by Mr. Papadopoulos at first, Mr. Mifsud became far more interested when he learned that the young traveler was working for the Trump campaign. The two men met again in London on March 24, when the professor introduced Mr. Papadopoulos to a Russian woman he said was a relative of Mr. Putin with close ties to senior Russian officials

So a Russian spy dropped this idiot. They manipulated him .

> But several people in the room began to raise questions about the wisdom of a meeting with Mr. Putin, noting that Russia was under sanctions from the United States. Jeff Sessions, now attorney general and then a senator from Alabama who was counseling Mr. Trump on national security, “shut George down,” the adviser said. “He said, ‘We’re not going to do it’ and he added, ‘I’d prefer that nobody speak about this again.’”

He kept pushing the idea to the Trump campaign but people shut him down in the meeting. But but here is the thing. This possibly shows that the President and higher ranking members of his administration and cabinet knew what this kid was up too.

> On April 26 came a crucial meeting. At breakfast at a London hotel, Mr. Mifsud told Mr. Papadopoulos that he had just returned from Moscow, where he had “learned that the Russians had obtained ‘dirt’ on then-candidate Clinton.” Mr. Mifsud said he had been told the Russians had “thousands of emails.”

Here my friends is the prize. Collusion. I repeat Collusion !

factsRcool · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

Lucky guess?

nebuchadrezzar · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

>In September 2015, the F.B.I. made its first call to the Democratic National Committee to report evidence of Russian hackers inside the committee’s network. But for seven months, the word never got beyond an I.T. contractor, and the hackers apparently had the run of confidential emails and other files.

Uh huh, completely believable story!

topherotica · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

The alt-right targets college campuses because that’s where they will get the biggest reaction. It’s a simple formula of the most media attention for the smallest investment, ROI.

The more attention given to talks and skirmishes the more media coverage and the wider their message spreads. Groups like Antifa, while well meaning, are playing into the alt-right/media’s narrative.

NathanOhio · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

Ummm.. the Hillary email story broke in 2015….

DayMan34 · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

Do you people even read these articles?

>A crucial detail is still missing: Whether and when Mr. Papadopoulos told senior Trump campaign officials about Russia’s possession of hacked emails. And it appears that the young aide’s quest for a deeper connection with Russian officials, while he aggressively pursued it, led nowhere.

colonel_j · November 1, 2017 at 2:24 am

Why does the headline state “Democrats’ Emails” when Papadopoulos only mentions “Hillary’s emails,” that she tried erasing by bleachbiting the server and smashing smartphones and tablets, which was later released publicly by the State Department? Pretty misleading of them… then again… this is The Failing New York Times we’re talking about.

Even if you believe Wikileaks is a channel of Russia, they did not release Hillary’s emails. Wikileaks only released the emails of the DNC and John Podesta.

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